what is the proper way to handle this situation?

Stallion wrote:If I figure out who you guys are talking about I'll probably beat him up just for good measure.

Okay David. Once I figure out whose name Bavid ryhmes with I am a) banning him and b) rallying the forum together as a posse to kick his ass.

he probably runs a 3.2 40. These guys would never catch him.

Stallion wrote:he probably runs a 3.2 40. These guys would never catch him.

I know what you guys are thinking: "a 3.2 40? That must be Danny!" but I assure you, it 'isn't me. We'll find this guy.

PoWdA wrote:

Stallion wrote:he probably runs a 3.2 40. These guys would never catch him.

I know what you guys are thinking: "a 3.2 40? That must be Danny!" but I assure you, it 'isn't me. We'll find this guy.

Unless he means that he runs for a 40oz beer he got from the grocery store on Sunday... It's got to be Ian!!!

dexman1349 wrote:

PoWdA wrote:

Stallion wrote:he probably runs a 3.2 40. These guys would never catch him.

I know what you guys are thinking: "a 3.2 40? That must be Danny!" but I assure you, it 'isn't me. We'll find this guy.

Unless he means that he runs for a 40oz beer he got from the grocery store on Sunday... It's got to be Ian!!!

I don't drink no forty's....although I did get yelled at for bringing one into Bally's once.


Also I posted this question over at twoplustwo and only a couple responses so far but so far it's looking like this hand is alive and must be continued.

Also I see no way that it can be a dead hand based on these rules....


1. Once action begins, a misdeal cannot be called. The deal will be played, and no money will be returned to any player whose hand is fouled. In button games, action is considered to occur when two players after the blinds have acted on their hands. In stud games, action is considered to occur when two players after the forced bet have acted on their hands.


17. If the deck stub gets fouled for some reason, such as the dealer believing the deal is over and dropping the deck, the deal must still be played out, and the deck reconstituted in as fair a way as possible.

idh78 wrote:
In button games, action is considered to occur when two players after the blinds have acted on their hands.

Define what an "action" is please.

17. If the deck stub gets fouled for some reason, such as the dealer believing the deal is over and dropping the deck, the deal must still be played out, and the deck reconstituted in as fair a way as possible.

I understand this but I have 2 problems with this scenario:

1) Has substantial action occurred? Substantial action msut have occurred in order to reconstruct the deck here.

2) The deck was not simply dropped, it was shuffled (I am assuming a "riffle" or 2) into the muck.

Obviously if substantial action has occurred then yes, you simply have to take the deck and deal the hand out. If substantial action has not occurred then you cannot continue with this hand. Can we define action here?

PoWdA wrote: Can we define action here?

Yes. I would say that if two players voluntarily put chips into the pot, enough action has occured that the hand must be played out.

I realized the deck is FUBAR, and includes mucked cards but it must be reconstructed in as fair a way as possible...in this case I think you just shuffle normally, cut, burn and go on with the hand.

idh78 wrote:

PoWdA wrote: Can we define action here?

Yes. I would say that if two players voluntarily put chips into the pot, enough action has occured that the hand must be played out.

I realized the deck is FUBAR, and includes mucked cards but it must be reconstructed in as fair a way as possible...in this case I think you just shuffle normally, cut, burn and go on with the hand.

Yeah. I think the best way to avoid this problem is to have dealers that don't suck so bad and there won't be this problem in the future.

PoWdA wrote: Yeah. I think the best way to avoid this problem is to have dealers that don't suck so bad and there won't be this problem in the future.

We try but this "Bavid" guy keeps showing up...

dexman1349 wrote:

PoWdA wrote: Yeah. I think the best way to avoid this problem is to have dealers that don't suck so bad and there won't be this problem in the future.

We try but this "Bavid" guy keeps showing up...

Who is telling thsi guy where the games are anyway?

PoWdA wrote:

dexman1349 wrote:

PoWdA wrote: Yeah. I think the best way to avoid this problem is to have dealers that don't suck so bad and there won't be this problem in the future.

We try but this "Bavid" guy keeps showing up...

Who is telling thsi guy where the games are anyway?

He probably just lurks online and just waits for someone to post something about it. We may need to go to a PM style notification system to avoid this from progressing further...

I think we just need him to invest in a pokertek table for the group....I'm sure he's got 10 grand laying around somewhere...

That's been tried. Then I just drive by Jon and Paul's houses every saturday night. If there are a bunch of cars outside I just pop in. It was a little ackward the time that I popped in on a Pampered Chef party. Although I did pick up a nice garlic baker and a pizza stone so it wasn't a total loss.........

Here's the $10k I have lying around.....