filled up on the river... Your play?

PokerStars Game #21460660208: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/10/24 16:21:04 ET
Table 'Eulalia III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: baxternon ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Vague1 ($25 in chips)
Seat 3: GhostHost22 ($75.50 in chips)
Seat 4: FelkerPoker ($13.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Pokemaniac ($10 in chips)
Seat 6: iD.VaLi ($54.55 in chips)
Seat 7: Uhnihilator ($53.40 in chips)
Seat 8: kwyle15 ($16.85 in chips)
Seat 9: FloppyMcNutZ ($56.50 in chips)
FelkerPoker: posts small blind $0.25
Pokemaniac: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [9s 9d]
iD.VaLi: folds
Uhnihilator: raises $1.50 to $2
kwyle15: folds
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $2
baxternon: folds
Vague1: folds
GhostHost22: calls $2
FelkerPoker: folds
Pokemaniac: folds
*** FLOP *** [Qs Qd Th]
Uhnihilator: checks
FloppyMcNutZ: checks
GhostHost22: checks
*** TURN *** [Qs Qd Th] [3h]
Uhnihilator: checks
FloppyMcNutZ: checks
GhostHost22: checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs Qd Th 3h] [9c]
Uhnihilator: checks
FloppyMcNutZ: bets $4
GhostHost22: raises $8 to $12
Uhnihilator:folds
FloppyMcNutZ:? calls $8
*** SHOW DOWN ***
GhostHost22: shows [3d 3c] (a full house, Threes full of Queens)
FloppyMcNutZ: shows [9s 9d] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
FloppyMcNutZ collected $29.25 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $30.75 | Rake $1.50
Board [Qs Qd Th 3h 9c]
Seat 1: baxternon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Vague1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: GhostHost22 (button) showed [3d 3c] and lost with a full house, Threes full of Queens
Seat 4: FelkerPoker (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Pokemaniac (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: iD.VaLi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Uhnihilator folded on the River
Seat 8: kwyle15 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FloppyMcNutZ showed [9s 9d] and won ($29.25) with a full house, Nines full of Queens

Minraise to $24. Villians flop and turn checks suspiciously look like AK or pocket pair to me. If he 4-bet shoves, mayyyybe you can put him on QT, or TT, and let it go, but preflop action doesn't say QT, and TT likely doesn't check turn. Which means, you're probably willing to get it all in here anyway, but no need to shove, because you want a call from most holdings.

call. I think a raise is only getting folded to or reraised by a better boat.

edit: ok. Just looked at action. QT seems in likely calling range for button play, but perhaps I missed the bus to valuetown.

I call. Check, check, raise on the river seems too suspicious. For some reason, I was expecting quads there as that is how I'd play'em. Perhaps my logic is way out there and the odds of this happening too small, but call is the safe move as even a min raise could result in an all in re-raise to put you at a decision.

...probably raise in a tournament, but call in live cash game.

Scrupboy wrote:I call. Check, check, raise on the river seems too suspicious. For some reason, I was expecting quads there as that is how I'd play'em. Perhaps my logic is way out there and the odds of this happening too small, but call is the safe move as even a min raise could result in an all in re-raise to put you at a decision.

...probably raise in a tournament, but call in live cash game.

And this is why 99% of my play is tournament play.