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Post  pseudoswede on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:12 am

Four-handed. Blinds are 300/600. I am chip leader with about 5000 chips (lol).

I'm small blind and I get Kc8c. Folds to me. I bump it to 1200. Big blind calls (I have her covered by about 1000).

Flop is JcTc6d.

Do you bet out or check?
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Post  Mondogarage on Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:29 am

I think you have to bet out here, but any sort of 1/2 pot betsize pot commits villian. The nitty play would be a check/fold, but you can't check/call here, as you're probably looking at 12 outs tops and possibly less (flush draw and perhaps one overcard).

To call your first bet, she likely has something like AT-AQo, or medium pocket pair.

This is actually a tough spot, because any bet-size enough to let her fold also commits your stack.
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Post  idh78 on Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:17 pm

I open shove...post flop play is gone at this point...
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Post  pseudoswede on Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:25 pm

Mondogarage wrote:
To call your first bet, she likely has something like AT-AQo, or medium pocket pair.

I forgot to mention that this was bar poker. Laughing

I opened with 1200. She thought about it for a long time and folded Kd9h. She asked to run the turn and river.

Turn: Qc (which would've given her the straight and me the flush)

River: Ac

I know I should've played it the way I did, but I basically mucked away my first live royal.
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Post  Stallion on Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:46 am

idh78 wrote:I open shove...post flop play is gone at this point...

+1

I also raise more pf. Maybe it's just me, but I hardly ever min raise.
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Post  Mondogarage on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:00 pm

Stallion wrote:
idh78 wrote:I open shove...post flop play is gone at this point...

+1

I also raise more pf. Maybe it's just me, but I hardly ever min raise.

That goes triple in bar poker. Min-raising at the bar just invites trouble, because 80% of players don't have the first clue what you're representing by bet size.
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Post  dexman1349 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:58 pm

Mondogarage wrote:
Stallion wrote:
idh78 wrote:I open shove...post flop play is gone at this point...

+1

I also raise more pf. Maybe it's just me, but I hardly ever min raise.

That goes triple in bar poker. Min-raising at the bar just invites trouble, because 80% of players don't have the first clue what you're representing by bet size.

The first rule of Bar Poker is we do not talk about Bar Poker!
The second rule of Bar Poker is we do not treat Bar Poker players as actually knowledgeable about poker. I like to consider them in a group of crazy mutant blackjack rejects who are somehow attracted by the sights and smells of alcohol, chips, and cards. They may or may not even know that a flush beats a straight. When you talk about "the nuts" they think you are referring to the bowl of peanuts the bartender put out a week ago. This analogy also applies to most online poker players under the $5 tourney buy-in level (minus the alcohol).
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Post  idh78 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 7:53 pm

dexman1349 wrote:This analogy also applies to most online poker players under the $5 tourney buy-in level (minus the alcohol).

wait a minute? who the hell plays online poker sober? that shit is boring yo.
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Post  dexman1349 on Mon Jul 07, 2008 11:18 pm

idh78 wrote:
dexman1349 wrote:This analogy also applies to most online poker players under the $5 tourney buy-in level (minus the alcohol).

wait a minute? who the hell plays online poker sober? that shit is boring yo.

I stand corrected.
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