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Highly coordinated board. Top 2. Facing min-raise. Next?

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Post  PoWdA Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:51 pm

PokerStars Game #21671774883: Tournament #116550732, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/11/01 13:38:49 ET
Table '116550732 167' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: gathart (15023 in chips)
Seat 2: Milos73 (1784 in chips)
Seat 3: HoldemPimp99 (2333 in chips)
Seat 4: XOXOTNTXOXO (2015 in chips)
Seat 5: robby0082 (15940 in chips)
Seat 6: honigdachs80 (21228 in chips)
Seat 7: yzerman89 (8357 in chips)
Seat 8: grinta121 (4620 in chips)
Seat 9: FloppyMcNutZ (11045 in chips)
gathart: posts the ante 25
Milos73: posts the ante 25
HoldemPimp99: posts the ante 25
XOXOTNTXOXO: posts the ante 25
robby0082: posts the ante 25
honigdachs80: posts the ante 25
yzerman89: posts the ante 25
grinta121: posts the ante 25
FloppyMcNutZ: posts the ante 25
honigdachs80: posts small blind 125
yzerman89: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [Ad Qd]
grinta121: folds
FloppyMcNutZ: raises 483 to 733
gathart: folds
Milos73: folds
HoldemPimp99: folds
XOXOTNTXOXO: folds
robby0082: calls 733
honigdachs80: folds
yzerman89: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc Ac Qs]
FloppyMcNutZ: bets 1779
robby0082: raises 1971 to 3750
FloppyMcNutZ: What is the right move here?

FloppyMcNutZ: calls 1971
*** TURN *** [Jc Ac Qs] [Ah]
FloppyMcNutZ: checks
robby0082: bets 11432 and is all-in
FloppyMcNutZ: calls 6537 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (4895) returned to robby0082
*** RIVER *** [Jc Ac Qs Ah] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FloppyMcNutZ: shows [Ad Qd] (a full house, Aces full of Queens)
robby0082: shows [Js Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Aces)
FloppyMcNutZ collected 22640 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 22640 | Rake 0
Board [Jc Ac Qs Ah 3c]
Seat 1: gathart folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Milos73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: HoldemPimp99 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: XOXOTNTXOXO folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: robby0082 (button) showed [Js Jh] and lost with a full house, Jacks full of Aces
Seat 6: honigdachs80 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: yzerman89 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: grinta121 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FloppyMcNutZ showed [Ad Qd] and won (22640) with a full house, Aces full of Queens



Does calling the turn flop just feel bad to anyone else? I was thinking he had precisely JJ or AJ with AK and AA being very distant other holdings. I don't see what else he could possibly have here. Is the flop call of his rr weak?
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Post  snowocean Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:52 pm

If he's the type of player that has shown a willingness to slow down i think a call is OK. If he is the type of player that gets out of line or is agressive then its either dump or shove.

Dump:
Not too bad. You certainly have enough chips to continue playing.

Raise:
He certainly calls with AA and JJ and QQ. What are the chances he calls with AK or AJ? If he calls those hands it could be argued that it is a profitable shove. Actually that is a great math problem! If I find the time and desire to figure this one out I will post results.
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Post  PoWdA Sat Nov 01, 2008 4:16 pm

Thanks for the replies (all threads!).
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