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Post  Mondogarage on Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:12 am

Should I have been able to put this guy on his eventual holding? Did I bet this poorly?

PokerStars Game #22779922739: Tournament #125322197, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2008/12/09 22:45:47 ET
Table '125322197 41' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Martell*15 (7125 in chips)
Seat 2: JklMF (848 in chips)
Seat 3: PANTYDIVER (11335 in chips)
Seat 4: jaguardave (3740 in chips)
Seat 5: Mondogarage (6205 in chips)
Seat 6: skibum5797 (6080 in chips)
Seat 7: bill jones (2620 in chips)
Seat 8: cole_ford (853 in chips)
Seat 9: O Psilos (6580 in chips)
Martell*15: posts the ante 25
JklMF: posts the ante 25
PANTYDIVER: posts the ante 25
jaguardave: posts the ante 25
Mondogarage: posts the ante 25
skibum5797: posts the ante 25
bill jones: posts the ante 25
cole_ford: posts the ante 25
O Psilos: posts the ante 25
skibum5797: posts small blind 125
bill jones: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mondogarage [Js Jh]
cole_ford: folds
O Psilos: folds
Martell*15: raises 250 to 500
JklMF: folds
PANTYDIVER: folds
jaguardave: folds
Mondogarage: calls 500
skibum5797: calls 375
bill jones: folds
*** FLOP *** [7s Jd 2d]
skibum5797: checks
Martell*15: bets 1000
Mondogarage: calls 1000
skibum5797: folds
*** TURN *** [7s Jd 2d] [Ac]
Martell*15: checks
Mondogarage: bets 1000
Martell*15: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** [7s Jd 2d Ac] [4d]
Martell*15: bets 4600 and is all-in
Mondogarage: calls 3680 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (920) returned to Martell*15
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Martell*15: shows [7d 6d] (a flush, Jack high)
Mondogarage: shows [Js Jh] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Martell*15 collected 13335 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13335 | Rake 0
Board [7s Jd 2d Ac 4d]
Seat 1: Martell*15 showed [7d 6d] and won (13335) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 2: JklMF folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PANTYDIVER folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jaguardave folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Mondogarage (button) showed [Js Jh] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 6: skibum5797 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: bill jones (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: cole_ford folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: O Psilos folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Post  dexman1349 on Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:44 am

anytime I get a check-caller who then pushes when a third suited card hits the board I instantly think it's a flush. I have seen alot of players who don't give a shit about pot odds and just chase it down (especially when holding the nut flush draw). It would have been a tough laydown on the river, but with the check-call then push I instantly think he either has the flush or he is trying to represent one.
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Post  Mondogarage on Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:22 pm

I was a bit worried about AA, given the preflop minraise, which if so, I could have let it go on the river thinking he hit his set on the turn, but I thought there was a possibility of KK or QQ, or yes, either the flush or the draw.

I suppose I can give him credit for disguising his drawing hand so well preflop.
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Post  SnowOcean on Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:05 pm

My first thought was raise pre-flop, but if you really think he may have AA/KK then why not raise on the flop? If you push all in there(and he has AA) at best he is going to put you on a pair with flush draw. I think he definately calls that spot and is way behind to your set.

Knowing what he had he probably would have put you on AJ if you shoved. He can certainly call here, but might fold. Personally I think he calls under the thinking he has 14 outs......he is not happy to see only 8 on the turn and 7 on the river.

At the end of the day it is a tough hand because he sucks out under both scenarios.....

My only other comment would be the turn. By betting 25% of the pot you are making him pay more for his draw than its worth....slightly. If you are going to do this then you have got to be prepared to fold on the river. He can justify the 25% if he knows you will give him your stack should his hand hit on the river, but if you fold to his river bet you made him pay more than his draw was worth.

Hope that made sense.
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