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Post  PoWdA on Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:22 am

Am I out of line calling to the river with a low draw here? A 3 makes me a wheel which is almost definetly a win here but there are only 2 left in the deck. Thoughts?

PokerStars Game #23692179771: 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo Limit ($3/$6) - 2009/01/08 11:16:42 ET
Table 'Markab II' 8-max
Seat 1: 5y78h4g ($175.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Freez0 ($272.75 in chips)
Seat 5: FloppyMcNutZ ($119.50 in chips)
Seat 6: LoaderUp ($108 in chips)
Seat 7: kyoto ($196 in chips)
Seat 8: shaan777 ($203.50 in chips)
5y78h4g: posts the ante $0.25
Freez0: posts the ante $0.25
FloppyMcNutZ: posts the ante $0.25
LoaderUp: posts the ante $0.25
kyoto: posts the ante $0.25
sirantus leaves the table
shaan777: posts the ante $0.25
*** 3rd STREET ***
Dealt to 5y78h4g [3h]
Dealt to Freez0 [Jd]
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [2d 5c 4c]
Dealt to LoaderUp [3s]
Dealt to kyoto [Jh]
Dealt to shaan777 [Ah]
TrackerAlpha joins the table at seat #4
5y78h4g: brings in for $1
Freez0: folds
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $1
LoaderUp: folds
kyoto: calls $1
shaan777: raises $2 to $3
5y78h4g: calls $2
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $2
kyoto: folds
*** 4th STREET ***
Dealt to 5y78h4g [3h] [Kd]
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [2d 5c 4c] [Ad]
Dealt to shaan777 [Ah] [4s]
FloppyMcNutZ: checks
shaan777: bets $3
5y78h4g: folds
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $3
*** 5th STREET ***
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [2d 5c 4c Ad] [Td]
Dealt to shaan777 [Ah 4s] [5d]
FloppyMcNutZ: checks
shaan777: bets $6
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $6
*** 6th STREET ***
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [2d 5c 4c Ad Td] [9c]
Dealt to shaan777 [Ah 4s 5d] [Ks]
shaan777: bets $6
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $6
*** RIVER ***
Dealt to FloppyMcNutZ [2d 5c 4c Ad Td 9c] [7d]
shaan777: bets $6
FloppyMcNutZ: calls $6
*** SHOW DOWN ***
shaan777: shows [3c 8h Ah 4s 5d Ks 4h] (HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,5,4,3,A)
FloppyMcNutZ: shows [2d 5c 4c Ad Td 9c 7d] (HI: high card Ace; LO: 7,5,4,2,A)
shaan777 collected $25.75 from pot
FloppyMcNutZ collected $25.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $53.50 | Rake $2
Seat 1: 5y78h4g folded on the 4th Street
Seat 3: Freez0 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 5: FloppyMcNutZ showed [2d 5c 4c Ad Td 9c 7d] and won ($25.75) with HI: high card Ace; LO: 7,5,4,2,A
Seat 6: LoaderUp folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
Seat 7: kyoto folded on the 3rd Street
Seat 8: shaan777 showed [3c 8h Ah 4s 5d Ks 4h] and won ($25.75) with HI: a pair of Fours; LO: 8,5,4,3,A
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Post  Mondogarage on Thu Jan 08, 2009 1:15 pm

I think this is one you can let go by 5th, for the reason you cite. Even if a 6 still gives you good chance at best low, you're only drawing to two cards to a possible scoop, and not enough dead players in the pot for proper odds.
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Post  grasshopp3r on Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:45 pm

I would raise 3rd and either lead or check raise 4th. If you played 3rd and 4th more aggressively, the pot would be larger by 5th. 5th and 6th are tricky and you are not getting the correct odds to call vs. a made low. There are better places to get your money in.

It is nice to know that shaan7 bets his 8 low.

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Post  durrr on Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:59 am

Fold 3rd when the ace raises its going to be hard to scoop with two 3s and (likely) two aces gone. Although I can't fault you for calling as folding is much less fun (I'd probably call here but I suck) I think you can definitely fold 5th you probably only have 2 outs to scoop and cards cost twice as much, Splashing around a little on 3rd and 4th is OK but i definitely want to have the best hand or a very strong two way draw to continue on the big bet streets.

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