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Post  CardJunkie on Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:54 pm

This probably shouldn't fall under bad beats, it's more like bad play. I just can't give up this hand. Lost all my money on it last night.

On the button I get big slick. Under the gun makes a small raise, I double his raise and he calls. Flop comes A J 6, he bets and I call. Turn is another Ace. He check raises me all in. I know he has the A J at this point, but I still go ahead and pay him off. Stupid, I know. I put him on a boat and he probably could've shown me his cards and I still would've called. Like I said, I can't get away from big slick.
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Post  PoWdA on Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:17 pm

CardJunkie wrote:This probably shouldn't fall under bad beats, it's more like bad play. I just can't give up this hand. Lost all my money on it last night.

On the button I get big slick. Under the gun makes a small raise, I double his raise and he calls. Flop comes A J 6, he bets and I call. Turn is another Ace. He check raises me all in. I know he has the A J at this point, but I still go ahead and pay him off. Stupid, I know. I put him on a boat and he probably could've shown me his cards and I still would've called. Like I said, I can't get away from big slick.
That sucks Dirk. I don't knwo If I can fold there either. Was this @ the toad?
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Post  Mondogarage on Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:16 pm

Who runs the games at the Toad? If you're talking The Toad Tavern, the owner's sorta an acquaintance of mine -- good dude.
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Post  CardJunkie on Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:24 pm

I had something like $55 left and I was getting better than 3:1 on my money so I figured it was worth a shot. I was hoping he had A Q or A 10, maybe even another big slick. I can live with losing that one but it would be hard going on if I got bluffed out.
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Post  Mondogarage on Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:41 pm

That was more a cooler than a bad beat. I don't see how the call can be faulted at all, unless you can only put him on a boat there, which I don't think you can. If his raise was no more than doubling the BB early, that looks a hell of a lot more like suited connectors or low pocket pair. AJ will usually make more like a 3.5x raise early, and making the call out of position is a tad bit loose there.

I think that hand was played fine, long run, though I would have preferred you re-raising more preflop, perhaps making a pot size bet. Either way, you were behind the whole time once the flop hit, on a board you can't really fold to, without being too nitty. tongue
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Post  Scrupboy on Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:27 pm

I don't think I can get away from this but I may have been able to salvage a complete loss. It's just one of those things that AK will get you into. If he calls your preflop raise he most likely has an Ax or a pocket pair. In this situation I may (and I stress may) have checked the turn depending on his mannerism while calling the flop bet or how he checked the turn. If I feel he may have caught something I would check the turn and hopefully he would make a value bet on the river so that I could see the result for cheap. Of course this is all dependent on how I perceive the player and this players history at the table. I've actually been in a similar position before and played it this way if the player would have went all in, I would have called. His value bet on the end saved me money and I ended up going deep in the tournament.
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Post  dexman1349 on Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:18 pm

Scrupboy wrote:I don't think I can get away from this but I may have been able to salvage a complete loss. It's just one of those things that AK will get you into. If he calls your preflop raise he most likely has an Ax or a pocket pair. In this situation I may (and I stress may) have checked the turn depending on his mannerism while calling the flop bet or how he checked the turn. If I feel he may have caught something I would check the turn and hopefully he would make a value bet on the river so that I could see the result for cheap. Of course this is all dependent on how I perceive the player and this players history at the table. I've actually been in a similar position before and played it this way if the player would have went all in, I would have called. His value bet on the end saved me money and I ended up going deep in the tournament.

This is how I play any A-10 or better. I've lost so much money overplaying my A's (or any pocket pair), it's just crazy. If I had a nickel for every TP/TK I ended up folding because it just didn't "feel" right, I'd have a ton of nickels. Honestly, I'd rather play middle suited connectors because if they hit, they usually hit well, and they're easy to throw away if they don't.
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